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Poster: cashel Date: Aug 22, 2004 9:40pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: people need help

What would happen if Anarchy was introduced in our countries? How would our police forces change? Would all of our present laws be abolished? Whether it is USA, Australia,etc ,I know that there are millions ofpeople who need help and are NOT getting it. EXAMPLES 1 people caring for an invalid family member 2 unemployed people caringfor and educating children 3 people adicted to drugs or alcohol or suffering mental illness AND the list could go on and on.

This post was modified by cashel on 2004-08-23 04:40:26

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Poster: tom w. Date: Aug 23, 2004 5:49am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: people need help

anarchy isnt some program or political philosophy that is introduced to shape our lives. its a historical tendency for people to make their voices heard on political, social, and economic questions that affect their lives. it is resistance to any form of authority that attempts to tell people where, how or with who they should live. the only functions all governments through the history of time have had in common are (1) prevent and prosecute violent acts and (2) the coercion of the people. all the rest is inconsistent and changes with time and culture. and of course you need laws and the enforcers of laws to provide these functions.

there are no easy answers to what society would look like if the people of the world really rose up against institutional poverty, institutional racism, sexism, and classism, militarism, and all the other social ills that seem to be embedded in our worlds. some say they way to go is to get away from the ideas and identities as nations, and move toward the ideas and identities as communities, where people know each other and have some commonality. i really dont feel that as a new yorker, i'm more compatible or similar to someone in california rather than someone in toronto, just because california is in america.

i think there is evidence that the problems you cited (drugs, miseducation, mental illness, unemployment) are better dealt with through close personal interactions and interventions. ex. drugs: family and community work better than prisons; education: tutors work better than "tracking" and being held back a grade; mental illness: professional caregivers and family (often) work better than medications and asylums.

smaller, more local grassroots organizations have been better at dealing with such problems than huge national programs or industries that deal with hundreds of thousands of cases as if they are all the same and can be fixed the same way.

people need help, yes. but the best givers of help are also people

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